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1 Greg (3 comments) March 12, 2010 at 8:58 am

You say you can have a HSA as long as you have a “high-deductible health plan”. I still have an open HSA account (little to no $$$ in it) from previous employment, but have since done nothing with it as I acquired other traditional health insurance with my current employer. What does it take for me to be able to legally start contributing $$$ to that HSA? What qualifies as a “high-deductible health plan”? I am planning to obtain family health insurance on the open market very soon and am wondering if or how I can start contributing $$$ to my HSA again.

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2 Credit Card Chaser (4 comments) March 12, 2010 at 12:51 pm

Here are the current rules from the IRS for when you can and can’t contribute to your HSA and also some information about high deductible health plans: http://www.irs.gov/publications/p969/ar02.html#en_US_publink1000204045
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3 Ted (5 comments) March 12, 2010 at 11:53 am

We had an HSA and a high-deductible insurance. It stunk for us. We did not have enough cash money in the HSA when the medical bills came in droves- we ended up spending all our savings and going into debt over medical bills. HSA and a HD Insurance plan are GREAT if you have extra cash and a good savings setup. It will save you money in the long run- but if you do not- take the security of a solid plan. Especially if you have small kiddos. IMHO. I do want to move back into an HSA and HD plan sometime- as you can pay for dental and orthodontic stuff with the HSA as well. But for now! A great plan that lets us pay copays with good insurance coverage until we are at a better place financially.
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4 Credit Card Chaser (4 comments) March 12, 2010 at 12:58 pm

You are right in that the first year that you have the HSA if you haven’t contributed any money to the HSA then it doesn’t do a whole lot of good until you actually contribute money into it.

The positive thing is though that if you get a high deductible health plan with 100% coverage after the deductible is met then your maximum out of pocket cost in any one year is limited to your deductible.

This means that for a family you could have a high deductible health plan with a $2,400 deductible ($1,200 for individuals) and your maximum out of pocket cost in any one year is only $2,400 ($1,200 for individuals).

$15,000 broken leg = you pay $2,400
$87,000 surgery = you pay $2,400
$950,000 cancer treatment = you pay $2,400

Pretty good deal to me. (Of course, not all high deductible health plans are created equal but if you choose a strong plan from a reputable company like United Healthcare, Humana, etc. then you are in good shape.)
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5 financialwizardess (2 comments) March 15, 2010 at 4:35 pm

Our HD plan is not that good. Ours is $2400 deductible for a family, but we found out that it only pays 90% after that. So our little hospital stay for our little sick baby ended up costing us our annual out of pocket maximum of $5400!!! Ouch!

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6 Money Reasons (19 comments) March 12, 2010 at 2:40 pm

I joined my company’s HSA plan 2 years ago, and I’m happy with it.

We were nervous the first year, because if we needed the money for an health expense, and it wasn’t in the HSA, we would have to pay out of pocket, but luckily we had some reserves and went ahead with it.

My company puts some extra money in our HSA too, not a lot, but it’s a nice perk.

Thanks for your 7 reasons! I didn’t realize it was so easy to transfer the HSA to a different company,
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7 Daddy Paul (8 comments) March 13, 2010 at 7:21 pm

Good read. If your employer offers a HAS for your insurance plan invest in it! This is one of the sweetest deals out there. If you spend the money on qualified medical expenses you will never have to pay tax on the money. Ask any retiree how much they spend on pills! When you hit 65 and you choose not to spend the money on medical bills then the plan acts very similar to an IRA.

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8 Victorino (2 comments) March 15, 2010 at 8:30 am

Tax exempt proceeds are always an attractive benefits. And the fact that it can even claimed as deductions to our tax dues, make it enticing further. But of course, it’s still better to have a comparison with other type of savings to come up with the best financial decisions. I would love to read a post that will compare some competitive kinds of savings account.
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9 Dennis Dobecki (1 comments) March 15, 2010 at 12:00 pm

There is no doubt that the monthly premium expense is lower with the high deductible health plan which must accompany a HSA. However, with the high deductible comes the possibility of higher out of pocket medical expenses. Additionally, studies show that 8 in 10 medical bills contain errors. Your insurance company has incentive to review the bills carefully if they are paying the bill, but have little incentive if the bill is the patient responsibility.

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10 financialwizardess (2 comments) March 15, 2010 at 4:30 pm

Hmmm… I have my HSA through my employer, so I am unable to direct my savings to any bank I wish. They chose the bank and you’re stuck with it (PLEASE correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure we can’t elect a different bank). And we earn a whopping 0.75% on it. That is why I stopped contributing anything to it. I let my employer kick in what they give us as incentive, but unless I plan to take $ out immediately, I don’t contribute at all. If I have an expense, I basically use the account as a launder and elect to contribute and then take out the exact same amount to avoid taxes. However I find the HSA option to have a horrible interest rate. Anyone know of any higher interest rates offered by banks? Maybe I can do a rollover or something. But I’m sure that they won’t direct new contributions from my employer to a different bank.

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11 ffb (1678 comments) March 15, 2010 at 5:01 pm

I can’t speak for HSA accounts but a bank savings account of .75% really isn’t that bad compared to what your standard brick and mortar savings account offers.

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12 Ron Cassell (1 comments) March 25, 2010 at 9:05 pm

I am earning 2.23% at OptumHealth. Balance required to be over $15k for that rate.

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13 HSA advocate (1 comments) March 16, 2010 at 12:21 pm

1. H S A’s are not always tax free. They are tax free from Federal but not every state has opted to accept H S A contributions tax free. For exaple, NJ and CA place state tax on H S A contributions but NY doesn’t. For New Yorkers, the entire H S A savings account is tax free. This is still not a con that will over power all the pro’s of an H S A as the taxation is minimal.
2. You have to think of all parts to an H S A to see it as being worth while. Yes, if you haven’t contributed a lot to begin with, you will have some out of pocket costs. But health care in this country isn’t free and hasn’t been so why don’t you have savings already dedicated to health emergencies???
3. An H S A is very much like an IRA. If you want, once you turn 65, you can use the H S A dollars to pay for your medicare Plan B premiums – TAX FREE! So why not start saving now? AND, if your employer contributes to an H S A and you’re about to turn 65, you can then take the $ out tax free like a 401k….the $ the company contributed really is like a match to a 401k…in other words, free money.
4. With an H S A, you are in charge of the H S A dollars you spend. Therefore, with a consumer driven health plan, you have the ability to judge the quality, efficiency, and price of the care you’re receiving. If you can save money by using a generic prescription vs. a brand name drug, why wouldn’t you? More savings for later. The idea behind consumer driven healthcare is to be a consumer. So when you go car shopping, are you going to pay $30,000 for a car you could get for $20,000 just because you’re already at that car dealership? Or will you shop around a couple places to see what you can get for your $$.
5. With an H S A, you have the option to invest your funds. How do you think the billionaires of the world became billionaires? By counting each penny in their savings account? No, by investing responsibly and watching their dollars multiply. You have this option with an H S A.

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14 Daddy Paul (8 comments) March 23, 2010 at 12:47 pm

HSA advocate
What a great comment!
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15 Roger, the Amateur Financier (2 comments) March 18, 2010 at 8:45 am

Sounds like a pretty good deal. I’ve heard quite a bit about HSAs in passing, but never having worked at a company that would offer them, I didn’t know all the details. It’s always fun to learn new things.
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16 megscole64 (3 comments) March 23, 2010 at 10:54 am

So how will the new horrible government takeover of health care affect people with HSAs and HD plans? Will they suffice as “proof” of insurance for the gov’t mandate? I’m going to be switching jobs and I really like the idea behind HSAs but am not sure where the legal avenues are going for things like that.
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17 Tucker (2 comments) March 24, 2010 at 3:54 pm

Yes, megcole64, a HD/HSA plan is insurance in the government’s eyes. The only impact on HSAs will be beginning next January 2011, if you use it to pay for OTC drugs (aspirin, cough syrup), the penalty is now 20%, not 10%. You can get a well-written summary of the bill at the Henry Kaiser Family Foundation website: http://www.kff.org/healthreform/sidebyside.cfm. The bill that passed is the White House/Congressional Leadership Reconciliation Bill (HR4872). Take a look.

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18 megscole64 (3 comments) March 24, 2010 at 4:02 pm

Hmmm…Thanks Tucker. I don’t have an HSA now, but have had an FSA for a long time and there’s not a penalty for buying OTCs. I didn’t realize there was any penalty for that with HSAs. Interesting. I probably won’t get one in the near future but may eventually have an HSA if my husband’s coverage gets too much more expensive…which it will I’m sure.
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19 Tucker (2 comments) March 24, 2010 at 4:59 pm

Starting next January, FSAs can’t be used for OTC items. Sorry!

But there’s some interesting stuff about what percentage of your health premium your employer will have to pay and out-of-pocket limits based on the Federal Poverty Levels. I really recommend everyone read up on the bill. The best remark I’ve heard about it is this: the main effect of the bill will be to make us become informed consumers, rather than just consumers. I personally like that.

But my favorite part is the 10% tax starting this July on indoor tanning services!

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20 ffb (1678 comments) March 24, 2010 at 10:38 pm

I hadn’t heard about the FSA and OTC items. If that’s the case then that’s a shame. I loved being able to use items like saline solution for my contacts in my FSA.

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21 megscole64 (3 comments) March 24, 2010 at 5:25 pm

Oh drat. Oh well. Doesn’t really bother me that much. The main effect of the bill will be to tick people off ~ once they learn how nasty it is and how much it will limit our access to care. :)
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